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Mr Tein
We all know Wheel and the maypole was built up from two song ideas. Got me wondering if other existingXTc songs could be put togther in the same way to create a new version.

In my head I have the thought of Yacht Dance and Easter Theatre mingling together not just linking the songs but the two eras of tha band. it would be better if i could demonstrate this musically of course????
Spastic Minnow
This seems like a good and interesting question... which is why I'm sorry I have to do this


Earn Enough For Us Being Us

I'm the Man who Murdered Love at First Sight.... on a Farmboy's Wages

Cynical Day in, Big Day out

King For a Workaway Tokyo Day

Ballet for a Reign of Blows

Yacht War Dance

Ra Ra For Wounded Rocking Horse

You're My Drug (You Are) I Had

Shake All You Pretty Donkeys Up
Kendley
Won't you take Martin's question seriously, for God's sake?
He was talking more about things like
Big King for a Day
Prince of Oranges and Lemons
Across This Anthills and Children
Ballet for a Rainy Day in, Day Out
Green Man Who Sailed Around his Soul
I'm the Man Who Murdered Love on a Farmboy's Wages
No Thugs in our House Full of Mice
Scissor Man Who Murdered Love and/or Sailed Around His Soul
This Outside World Over
I Remember the Minature Sun
The Everyday Story of a Smalltown Animal in a Furnished Cage
Are You Recieving Me and the Wind?
Papersnowman (rrrragh!)
Kendley
QUOTE (Spastic Minnow @ Sep 30 2011, 11:31 AM) *
I'm the Man who Murdered Love at First Sight.... on a Farmboy's Wages


Oooh, didn't catch that. Nice.
donavan
Your dictionary of modern marriage.
MXYZPTLK
Red Blue Green Gold Pink Man Beret Thing?


...will that do?
donavan
We Kill The Beast-Town.
donavan
I'd like that wave.



I'm stopping now, I'm too good at this.-is pop. tongue.gif
geordiegav
Statue of Simpleton

(i think Truzzi uses one of these complete with soap dish in his bathroom )

Great Fireball Xl5 just for Donavon
donavan
Great Fireball Xl5 just for Donavon

Cheers Gav, thanks - for Christmas................ wink.gif
ColinEd
QUOTE (Mr Tein @ Sep 30 2011, 10:59 AM) *
We all know Wheel and the maypole was built up from two song ideas. Got me wondering if other existingXTc songs could be put togther in the same way to create a new version.

In my head I have the thought of Yacht Dance and Easter Theatre mingling together not just linking the songs but the two eras of tha band. it would be better if i could demonstrate this musically of course????


Sorry Mr T I can't imagine these stuck together.

But of there are the obvious ones

This is Funk Pop a Roll
donavan
Wake Up You Red Brick Dreamers

Train running bungalow on soul coal
donavan
Dying, wounded horse.
donavan
Books are burning with optimism's flames.
donavan
Take this everyday story of a smalltown.
donavan
War dance with me Germany.
donavan
The disappointed rook.
donavan
Vanishing girl, then she appeared. wink.gif
tenazxtc
The somnambulist wake up
Jeff Truzzi
Fairly clever, Don. smile.gif

Initially reading this thread title, I thought it was gonna be about using two elements of dissimilar songs to create a new one.
Something like, say, singing the lyrics of Jethro Tull's "Aqualung" over the music of Neil Diamond/the Monkee's "I'm A Believer":

"Sitting on a park bench eyeing little girls
Eying little girls with bad intent
Snot is running down his nose (do do do)
Greasy fingers shabby clothes (do do do)
Watching as the frilly panties run

Aqualung my friend
Don't start away uneasy
You poor old sod
You see it's only me...."

i KNOW you can hear it.
smile.gif


Okay, so it wasn't.
But Spastic immediately diverted this thread from Mr Tein's original intent into 'sewn together' XTC song titles.
Which is all well and fine, nothing wrong with that.


However, going back to the original concept of musically editing together two XTC songs,
I'd say:
"Towers Of London" & "Earn Enough For Us".
You'd have to pick a tempo between them, faster than the former and slower than the latter.
And Tower's modulation from F to G already gets you into Earn's key.

An obvious one:
"Senses Working Overtime" & "Great Fire".
Tempos and initial chords and keys (Am) are already similar,
and the modular construction of both would facilitate juxtaposing sections
(after resolving modulation and voice leading issues).
Jeff Truzzi
QUOTE (ColinEd @ Oct 1 2011, 12:46 AM) *
This is Funk Pop a Roll


THERE'S one that COULD work really well musically! (Nice, C of E.)
The rest, I'm not so sure about. (Sorry.)
donavan
QUOTE (Jeff Truzzi @ Oct 1 2011, 08:48 PM) *
Fairly clever, Don. smile.gif




Fairly clever? Stupidly happy families clever. So don't lose your temper. wink.gif

Life is good in the greenhouse, man, no thugs either. wink.gif
Jeff Truzzi
QUOTE (donavan @ Oct 1 2011, 01:26 PM) *
Fairly clever? Stupidly happy families clever.

Life is good in the greenhouse, man, no thugs either. wink.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE (geordiegav @ Sep 30 2011, 04:07 PM) *
Statue of Simpleton

(i think Truzzi uses one of these complete with soap dish in his bathroom )


Damn it, Simp was NEVER supposed to tell anybody!
wink.gif

Now I'm intrigued by Tein's initial example.
Just because (like ColinEd) I don't hear it either, doesn't mean it couldn't work.
Maybe, when I get a few spare moments with ProTools, ....smile.gif
Jeff Truzzi
QUOTE (Jeff Truzzi @ Oct 1 2011, 01:35 PM) *
Just because (like ColinEd) I don't hear it either, doesn't mean it couldn't work.


I'd heard most of the original Brian Wilson "Smile" fragments and recordings since the early 80s,
and so considered myself pretty damn familiar with 'em.
Then I'd hear something, on another outtake or on the 2004 Smile CD,
where he took elements I was intimately familiar with
and edited them together in a way I could have never possibly imagined -
and it worked gloriously.

There's always more to learn.

Jeff Truzzi
I spoke too soon. I'm hearing all these working:

QUOTE (donavan @ Oct 1 2011, 01:39 AM) *
Books are burning with optimism's flames.



QUOTE (Spastic Minnow @ Sep 30 2011, 09:31 AM) *
I'm the Man who Murdered Love at First Sight.... on a Farmboy's Wages

Yacht War Dance

You're My Drug (You Are) I Had

Shake All You Pretty Donkeys Up



QUOTE (Kendley @ Sep 30 2011, 11:06 AM) *
Across This Anthills and Children

I'm the Man Who Murdered Love on a Farmboy's Wages

I Remember the Minature Sun


geordiegav
Crowded Room/Millions

There's a live track where Andy goes into the Millions riff and Dave is instantly on the ball, shows how tight a live band Xtc were and how much they enjoyed trying to goof each other around on stage...they probably had quite a few tunes Frankenstiend together live on stage for fun!

The night Lennon died didn't they slip Rain into some song from Black Sea too?

Oh and come on pop pickers Do what you do/Danceband was stitched together tight as Terry Chambers drum for many a live set!

Atom Medley?

Back to daft stuff....

Wait till your boat goes down a peg!
xTC
The Fuzzy Warblers joined Don't Let Us Bug Ya with I Don't Want To Be Here, due to the tempo, and the tuning was sympathetic, when we played it in 2005. smile.gif
donavan
Human alchemy and the wind
Mr Tein
QUOTE (Jeff Truzzi @ Oct 1 2011, 09:49 PM) *
I'd heard most of the original Brian Wilson "Smile" fragments and recordings since the early 80s,
and so considered myself pretty damn familiar with 'em.
Then I'd hear something, on another outtake or on the 2004 Smile CD,
where he took elements I was intimately familiar with
and edited them together in a way I could have never possibly imagined -
and it worked gloriously.

There's always more to learn.



well I was just wandering through the factory and sang through a quick arrangement of my amlagamation and i can get it to work. Obvioulsy a bit of tempo changes and for you purists I am probable in the wrong keys ( eveything in my world is in D! ).
donavan
QUOTE (donavan @ Oct 1 2011, 09:52 AM) *
The disappointed rook.



Sorry to quote my own post.

But wouldn't THE DISAPPOINTED ROOK make the best oversized illustration book for kids?
Mr Tein
QUOTE (donavan @ Oct 6 2011, 11:18 PM) *
Sorry to quote my own post.

But wouldn't THE DISAPPOINTED ROOK make the best oversized illustration book for kids?



But as a premise for a childrens book? it leads me to think of totally innapropriate books for children...


Uncle gary's coming to stay

100 things to do with a nail gun

My cat is dead.

Making the most out of MacDonalds
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